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Adoptables - what?

Journal Entry: Sat May 18, 2013, 3:11 AM


Can someone please explain to me what an 'adoptable' is?

Like: www.deviantart.com/art/III-Pok… and www.deviantart.com/art/Pokemon…

So... from what I understand you're paying for... the right to use the artist's design? So you 'own' that character? Like, $30 for the chance replicate someone's work? It's like a commission you never asked for.

ANOTHER thing is in the 'Rules' it often says 'Feel free to change the design once you've purchased them'. Um. Whut. So... basically... you're... drawing your own character from scratch. What the heck are you paying this person for then?

AND THIS: 'Character is completely yours after purchase BUT this art and character design is completely mine and so credits would be really appreciated if you plan on uploading it anywhere.'

WHUT. So... you still don't technically OWN the design, even after paying for it??? No, srsly, what am I missing hereee???

Please explain and also share your opinion on adoptables! Would you purchase an adoptable? Is it any different to purchasing an art print? Wtf is an adoptable anyways?

I'm not hating on the people who sell adoptables, I'm just a little confused!

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Before-I-Sleep Featured By Owner May 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I just don't understand these adoptables. ^^;
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WildLilLavenderChild Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
don't worry... I also feel the same... :iconimcryingsomuchplz: I just found out what adoptables are a few days ago...
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artiste-reveur Featured By Owner May 18, 2013   Traditional Artist
Thanks for asking...I've been kind of wondering the same thing...
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner May 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Basically it's a random character design (which is either a random character created randomly by an artist that they have no intention of using or a deliberately created character that is supposed to fit into a set theme like "food" or "seasons") that gets sold at a set price or via auction (a lot of people who sell these opt for auctions rather than set prices).

Some people view these as "easy money" since you don't have to deal with a commissioner who's giving details and you can pretty much do whatever you want although it's definitely the opposite on the "easy money part" since most adoptables pretty much sit around for months without being purchased (it's more embarrassing if you use a base line art since most of the time, it's a lot easier for another person to get the base & paint it themselves).

"Feel free to change the design once you've purchased them" is pretty much saying "hey, this really isn't worth much to me & I'm not proud of my work" but I can understand smaller adjustments like hairpins & hats - basically anything wearable that can be removed on the daily basis but changing hair/skin/eye color, hair in general, removing/adding wings, tails,etc. is a bit too much.

"Character is completely yours after purchase BUT this art and character design is completely mine and so credits would be really appreciated if you plan on uploading it anywhere." This mainly applies to people who are too lazy to draw the design once they have it so they simply upload the one they purchased (the one they didn't draw) although if you do have to place credits on one you drew yourself, it's a bit ridiculous.

Another big issue is selling old ocs or selling fandom based adoptables. Old Original Characters (ocs) already come with baggage attached; they pretty much already have established stories, names & additional info so attempting to sell them is not only harder but at the same time feels like you're throwing away part of your past. Selling fandom based adoptables on the other hand is highly questionable in terms of the law (first question would be is it even legal?) - you're selling someone the rights to draw a character of a pre-existing work that isn't even yours. It's one associated practice that I don't like watching since in some cases, people will recolor or make an extremely similar design to a pre-existing character & attempt to sell it (like a pikachu with green eyes).

I'm personally more interested in commissions instead of adoptables but I would also like to remind others that it goes far beyond linearts, some adoptable artists really do put effort into their works & actually attempt to come up with more unique designs (here's some of my favorites) :

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I would honestly have to compare buying an adoptable to buying a doll since you most likely didn't design the doll but you might keep it as a keepsake, name it & might play with it a bit.

(sorry for the long comment)
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Hannah-Alexander Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow those adoptables are awesome! But I still don't see why people would buy a character design. The doll was a good comparison, although perhaps a doll would mean more to me because it's something physical, whereas when purchasing an adoptable you're buying an idea from the artist. I guess I don't like the idea of buying something digital. I completely agree on the fanart adoptables front, very thin ice they're walking on there.
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I like those since they are quite unique (paying for something generic would be ridiculous)

Some people use the "it's for my story" excuse but if you wanna do that, it's easier to try & hire an artist to try to do the design based on your description.

Hmm...webkinz! They're like webkinz! XD

Too much
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FireWings26 Featured By Owner May 18, 2013  Student General Artist
I appreciated the long comment. I as well have always been somewhat confused by adoptables. I always thought they were more like buying the character and you had complete rights to it and the image the original artist drew. But I believe that is wrong....If I understand you correctly, you are buying the rights to the "idea" but not the artwork itself?

Overall, it seems pretty useless to me. I would rather just buy a print if I can't have the original piece of artwork. It's what I liked in the first place anyways...
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Hannah-Alexander Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Or just make up your own design! If you've got the ability to draw and create why buy another's design? There's no pride in that, to me. It's buying someone else's design so you can create your own OC, which then wouldn't really be an OC... Hehe!
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FireWings26 Featured By Owner May 20, 2013  Student General Artist
Exactly! And if you have an idea but can't draw it as you see fit, you could a) get help or b) get a commision. Many of the same people who I watch that have adoptables also have reasonable commision prices. And then you get the piece of artwork too.
I still don't get the appeal or point to them...Seems pretty useless to me.
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SavageFrog Featured By Owner May 18, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Pretty much - afterall, the picture is technically yours once you've purchased it but overall you're buying the idea of said design; the "rights" part is a bit laughable to be honest: it's like selling a car to someone & saying they can't do any repairs or repaint it even though ownership rights were transferred during the sale.

I still personally don't get the appeal entirely (I just have a few ideas about it) but I get where both sides come from (and I'd totally like things like keychains, t-shirts & prints)
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